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    Here are a few pictures of the manual battery disconnect that I was referring to a few posts ago. This switch is installed on a pristine show car. You simply turn the red lever to close a switch that connects the negative battery cables to the negative battery post. In the off position the connection is broken (open) and thus the battery won't drain over long periods of inactivity.

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    yes, this switch is made by Hella, I've seen it before.

    it's meant to be seen and easily accessible.

    but in Russia people were often installing similar switches in the hide-away spots, because it acted as an anti-theft device when there were no alarms available (USSR times).

    my Volga has a switch hidden under the dash.

    my Lada had one hidden under the driver's seat and once a fire extinguisher (which lived under the seat as well) rolled on a bump and disconnected it.

    It took me good 10 minutes to understand why the car stopped and died all of a sudden....
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    RESTORATION UPDATE

    Progress as of April 7th includes:

    * Battery side engine harness prepared for removal
    * Battery side electrical components removed

    * Friggin car alarm removed from the engine bay (hooorrraaaayyyy!)

    All parts cataloged and stored in freezer bags, as usual.

    Had some yard work that I needed to get to tonight. I put it off to spend time with the wife prior to her leaving yesterday. So time was somewhat limited to work on the restoration tonight, but I suspect that this will be more par for the course with lawn maintenance season upon us. Oh well. :-)

    Tonight I resumed work on prepping the engine bay for the upcoming removal of the engine. I decided to focus on tagging and removing the battery side engine harness. Lots of labels, lots of tagging, lots of time while being meticulous but no complaints. I would now like to pose a question to all of you: what in the hell are these four electrical system components? It seems like #3 in my picture is the main relay, but I don't have a clue what #1, #2 and #4 are. Fortunately I found a 3102 wiring diagram similar in overall look-n-feel to the M21 diagrams that Dmitri and Lembit have been referring to. However there is no way at this point to know whether or not the wiring of my particular 3102 matches the wiring shown in this diagram. From initial appearance it seems to follow it somewhat, but more study is needed. I already plan on tracing each wire individually to determine what it does and then drawing my own schematic prior to reassembling the car. But I digress.

    Anyway, when looking at that the attached cookie-cutter 3102 wiring diagram, it seems like the following mapping to what I have in my 3102 holds true:

    My #1 = Wiring diagram #72
    My #2 = Wiring diagram #11
    My #3 = Wiring diagram #71
    My #4 = Wiring diagram #62

    Any ideas are most welcome. And if someone could help me translate parts of this diagram that are not obvious I would be even more appreciative. The whole thing would be a lot of work, so only the components that aren't obvious would suffice I think. Just if you have a few minutes, no big deal. There's always google translator.


    Thank you for reading,

    Jerry
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    1987 GAZ Volga 3102
    1970 Plymouth Road Runner
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1992 Toyota 4X4 - 324,000+ miles and still kicking
    2000 F350 XLT SD 7.3L PSD DRW CC LB 4x4

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    Ok it's been bugging me ... what are these things anyway? I've given some thought to device #2. I remember seeing an old Ford many, many years ago that used ballast resistors inline with the coil. This was because the coil got too hot and these resistors would absorb some of that heat, allowing the coil to continue functioning. However those were old coils, not of modern design. This kind of thing went out of practice in the USA back in the 60s or so. Could it be that this type of technology was still used on this car with this coil? And if so, do the more modern coils made in Russia not need this type of thing because they are better in design and run cooler than the old ones do/did? If so, then I think it will be time for me to upgrade my coil! And of course that ignition system was a points-style system, so if I converted to electronic ignition the need for the ballast resistor would disappear anyway.

    Still pondering device #1. Device #4 looks like some kind of insulated ground, though having said that just now, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Thanks,

    Jerry
    1983 GAZ Volga 3102
    1987 GAZ Volga 3102
    1970 Plymouth Road Runner
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1992 Toyota 4X4 - 324,000+ miles and still kicking
    2000 F350 XLT SD 7.3L PSD DRW CC LB 4x4

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    Jerry,
    #4 looks very similar to a plug that is in the Volga 21 under the dash and that is a plug to take an extension lead light
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    Thanks Lembit! I hadn't thought about that, but that is entirely possible. It would have to be a European style plug if that is indeed the case, because the American style plug with its flattened prongs would not fit into the rounded receptor holes.

    Jerry
    1983 GAZ Volga 3102
    1987 GAZ Volga 3102
    1970 Plymouth Road Runner
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1992 Toyota 4X4 - 324,000+ miles and still kicking
    2000 F350 XLT SD 7.3L PSD DRW CC LB 4x4

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    translation:

    #1------#72, controller for idle control on the carburator

    #4----socket for work lamp (which is a part of a tool kit)
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    #2--------#11, ignition module

    #3-------#71, micro-switch for idle controller
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    I would not necessarily relate to a 240 or 110 volt system as of course it is 12 volts
    But if it is constantly live, then most likely it would be a extension electrical outlet of some sort and most likely for a light.
    I have that lead light also with my car
    Unfortunately I cannot provide a picture of mine as I am currently in San Jose CA.

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    Lembit- Yeah that is correct, sorry if I gave across the meaning of 110 vs 220, I wasn't trying to do that. I was simply making reference to the shape that the prongs of the extension light would need to be in order to use that outlet. They are the European style, not American. Cool that you have the light too, I would like to find one someday. Did yours come with the car when you bought it?

    Jerry
    1983 GAZ Volga 3102
    1987 GAZ Volga 3102
    1970 Plymouth Road Runner
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1985 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE
    1992 Toyota 4X4 - 324,000+ miles and still kicking
    2000 F350 XLT SD 7.3L PSD DRW CC LB 4x4

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